tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post1823492791182649718..comments2024-03-13T23:09:50.841+00:00Comments on Vaults of Nagoh: Thiefless D&DChrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04072272223837426211noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post-19252871666486099062011-08-12T19:52:36.265+01:002011-08-12T19:52:36.265+01:00I prefer to think that everyone succeeds if it'...I prefer to think that everyone succeeds if it's easy, fails if it's impossible, and has a 50-50 if the result is in question. Want your Fighter to sneak past wearing a bunch of metal armor? Fail. What if he takes off his armor and pack? 3 in 6 buddy. What if the others distract the guard, and the Fighter tries to slip past wearing no armor or pack? Sounds good to me, success. <br /><br />That said, Thief has special abilities nobody else has. His Climb Walls check is his chance to somehow pick his way up a brick wall or slimy cliffside or in high wind or carrying a heavy load. His Hide in Shadows lets him stand unnoticed in shadows where other folks would need to stand behind a banner or basket or something. His Move Silently lets him sneak up to a cat and CATSTAB IT, for example. Read Languages lets him decipher treasure maps. <br /><br />This is problematic when we look at other classes getting a Hear Noise check, or a chance to detect an invisible (and presumably this works for Hide in Shadows) creature in 1E DMG. <br /><br />I think the Thief represents a specialist who doesn't fight as well but has a suite of other cool skills. He fills a niche in dungeoneering that the Fighter / M-U / Cleric combo doesn't. Admittedly you could have your M-U cast Invisibility on the Fighter, and the Cleric could cast Silence on him. The M-U could Spider Climb or Levitate. Looked at that way, there isn't a reason to have other classes because any class skill could just be a M-U or Cleric spell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post-89568475987236847342010-12-17T19:47:01.696+00:002010-12-17T19:47:01.696+00:00Reminiscent of Lamentations of the Flame Princess ...Reminiscent of Lamentations of the Flame Princess WFRP?Tom H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post-79339686720876715822010-04-20T05:16:27.043+01:002010-04-20T05:16:27.043+01:00Not bad James. Given the easy compatibility and al...Not bad James. Given the easy compatibility and all I am actually thinking of switching to Swords and Wizardry anyway so the "problem" may resolve itself.<br /><br />My published old school stuff (if/when that happens) otoh will be generic anyway as I had planned.5stonegameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10694550968360550229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post-76358469936466552982010-04-20T01:15:45.457+01:002010-04-20T01:15:45.457+01:00@5stonegames - Limiting the Ability Score bonus on...@5stonegames - Limiting the Ability Score bonus on Skill checks to 1 or 2, may be a workable solution.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192212467523179768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post-54144128907290911772010-04-19T19:40:30.565+01:002010-04-19T19:40:30.565+01:00Good article.
I like the idea quite a bit but as...Good article. <br /><br />I like the idea quite a bit but as I was complaining about the same issue a few days ago I guess great minds run in the same channel.<br /><br />For those of us using stuff like Labyrinth Lord though (where a bonus can go to +3) I wonder of a d10 system (based of AD&D 2e) or other system might be better though5stonegameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10694550968360550229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post-5565038419661331222010-04-19T01:32:19.618+01:002010-04-19T01:32:19.618+01:00I think this is a good, workable solution. The sub...I think this is a good, workable solution. The subject is something I've been working on off and on as I prepare for my upcoming campaign. Trey definitely has a point about other skills. Pretty much anything non-social (I hate the idea of checks for "social skills,") could be folded into this.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192212467523179768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8346997917591558747.post-36880752515262907432010-04-19T00:37:17.216+01:002010-04-19T00:37:17.216+01:00I think this is good idea, and could help emulatio...I think this is good idea, and could help emulation of certain genres. Could it be a slippery slope, though? Might there be other common adventuring skills? I'm not complaining, just musing aloud--er, a-web.Treyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647628467658839351noreply@blogger.com